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Royal Mail strikes

So Royal Mail workers are on strike and it is likely to cause all sorts of problems. Now I don’t know if they should be striking or not or even if they are justified in striking. I must admit, though, that at some level I am quite pleased to see a group of people illustrating how important their industry is to the UK economy, although I am concerned about the damage it may do to Royal Mail itself. What I do find ironic is that yesterday the vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs suggested that if we don’t accept bankers’ enormous salaries these bankers will simply leave and take their profitable businesses overseas, while today we hear that Royal Mail workers shouldn’t strike because if they do other companies will take over Royal Mail’s business.

To a certain extent this sounds contradictory. I appreciate that there are probably fewer people capable of working in investment banks than there are capable of delivering mail, but presumably in an industry sense, the same should apply to both. If banks want to relocate, why can’t other banks simply take over what they’ve left behind. Why don’t we apply exactly the same logic to the banking sector as seems to being applied to Royal Mail. If they won’t accept a more reasonable salary scheme, then let them leave and allow other banks to take over their business. I do realise that this is probably simplistic, but it may illustrate a fundamental problem. Banks currently seem to operate in an environment in which they are given a level of protection not offered to other industries.

Arrogance personified

The Guardian has reported that the vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs, Lord Griffiths, has given a speech at St Paul’s cathedral in London about morality in the marketplace in which he argued that society (the British public) should “tolerate the inequality as a way to achieve greater prosperity for all” . Not only do I disagree with the premise that giving lots of money to a few people will make everyone else more prosperous, it also seems as though his primary argument is that if we don’t accept this, banks will relocate overseas.

I didn’t see the speech and haven’t read a transcript so don’t know if there was more to it than that suggested above, but it doesn’t seem like a particularly moral argument to me. Give us what we want or else. Personally I think we should stand up to these kind of threats. I don’t believe that there are any strong arguments in favour of the trickle-down effect. There must be some kind of conservation in the system: the more the bankers keep the less there is for the rest of us. What is more, since banks don’t really build anything or invent any new technologies, the more money they keep the less there is for industry to work with.

There’s no question that banks do provide a valuable service, but is it quite as valuable as they seem to think. I agree that at the moment individual banks may be forced to pay ridiculous salaries in order to retain good staff, but there is no real reason why we as a society cannot push for a global change such that this is no longer the norm. It seems as though banks pay much higher salaries to a much larger percentage of their staff than other comparably sized business. Although banks may well have a larger percentage of highly-trained staff than many other industries, this still doesn’t seem to justify such huge salaries. If anything, if more of these bright people were encouraged to go into other industries that may develop technologies that can change the way we live – rather than being seduced by huge salaries in the banking sector – we may all benefit.

Although I am pleased that Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, has criticised the banks for paying huge bonuses so soon after being bailed out by the government, I have to admit that I suspect that this is more for political effect than because he truly believes it is wrong.

Goldman Sachs

It has been reported that Goldman Sachs will make a record profit in 2009 and will consequently pay record staff bonuses, setting aside as much as $18 billion. Personally I find this obscene, as do many others, and was really hoping that the banking industry would show some restraint and try to illustrate that they recognise the damage that has been done to the world economy by their risk taking.

On the other hand, some argue that this is simply capitalism working and if they choose to distribute some of their profits amongst their staff, that is entirely up to them. In principle this is fine, but I thought I would try to see if their was some reason why this argument wasn’t quite correct. In the past few years Goldman Sachs has had revenues of about $50 billion. It may be slightly higher in 2009 since there are fewer banks operating, but it probably isn’t more than $100 billion. The bonus pot is about half of their total profit, suggesting a total profit of $35 billion. This means that their profit is something like 35 % – 70 % of their revenue (depending what their actual revenue is). How does this compare with other large companies. Well, I quickly looked up Toyota and in the last few years they’ve had revenues of about $220 billion and profits of about $15 billion, about 5 % of their revenue.

The above isn’t particularly statistically significant. I thought I would try to have a slightly deeper look at this. I downloaded data for the top 100 companies (by revenue) in the world and worked out the average percentage profit. It is about 6.5 %. When I do the same for the Banking sector only, it turns out to be 9.5 % (it is the same whether I take the top 20, top 25 or top 50 banks in the world). This may not seem like a lot, but it does suggest that the banking sector operates in a way that allows it to make a larger percentage profit – in general – than most, if not all, other industries.

Maybe the above is fine, I don’t really know. Personally I have a problem with it. Although banks compete amongst themselves, unlike many other industries, there isn’t really an alternative to banking. We don’t have to buy a car, we could use public transport or ride a bike. If, however, we want to buy a house or invest some money, we need to use a bank (there may be some exceptions, but this is generally true). Is the reason that banks can attain larger percentage profits than comparable industries in other sectors because they have the brightest most capable staff, or simply because the type of competition they face is different to what other industries face. Personally I favour the latter interpretation. I don’t know how to change this, and even if there is a way to do so, but it is my opinion that our economy would be better off if more of the money remained in industries that actually build things and develop new technologies than being swallowed up by banks and divided up amongst their staff and investors.

Investment banks

It has recently been announced that a couple of banks (Barclays and HSBC) have managed to make a few billion pounds profit in the first 6 months of this year. Most of the profit has come from their investment bank divisions and like many – I suspect – I am disappointed that these banks are now considering paying out substantial bonuses at the end of this year. Firstly, I’m not really convinced that their employees are so brilliant that they really deserve the kind of bonuses that are being predicted (although this is a rather subjective view). Secondly, the argument that they’ve done really well and deserve these bonuses may be correct in some sense, but without taxpayer intervention these companies probably wouldn’t have survived. To assert that these profits are simply a consequence of their talented staff seems slightly simplistic. Some humility and an acknowledgement that without public money this profit would not have been realised would at least make me feel like they have realised how much damage their unregulated business practices have done to the UK and the World’s economy.

What I must admit that I do not completely understand is why investment banks are actually allowed to operate in the way that they do. Maybe I should be more honest and say “in the way that I think they do”. Why do we need investments? From an economic point of view, some people have good ideas, but have no money. Others have money, but don’t have any good ideas. Those with the money then invest that money with those with the ideas and if everything goes well, they both make money. There is generally some risk involved so the investors could lose their money, but the potential returns generally make the risk worth it. By and large, the investor can choose their level of risk. Low risk would generally imply smaller returns and high risk would imply – assuming it all works well – high returns.

Investment banks then presumably came about – initially – to provide a way for investors to invest their money. Of course part of the goal is to make money for the investor, which seems perfectly reasonable. However, the profit is meant to result from this money actually doing something such as providing capital for someone with an idea. Today, however, it seems like the goal is simply to make money in any possible way. Not only does this include what appears to be effectively a form of gambling, but also potentially artificially influencing the share price (by for example dumping lots of shares on the market) in order to make money at a later stage.

It’s seems that in general there is an acceptance that this is all fine. If these investors – and the investment banks themselves – make money this will stimulate more growth. It’s not completely clear to me that this is quite correct. Firstly, the stock market seems to update share prices on a very short timescale. Money can therefore be made on the basis of short timescale fluctuations in share prices. This seems slightly odd in that these changes cannot truly reflect changes in the value of the company. Of course, if someone makes money, others will lose money so one could argue that this money just comes from other investors, but where is the benefit in this? How does the economy benefit by allowing people with money to make money on the basis of somewhat random variations in the value of shares? This money presumably hasn’t spent long enough in the system to have any real positive effect on the economy and presumably this type of trading doesn’t actually generate any real income (i.e., it just transfers money between investors).

One could argue that even though this money moves between investors, it does stay in the system and therefore does contribute to economic growth. Even this isn’t entirely clear since what presumably is required to really make money is a long term investment that can provide some kind of stability to a company. What’s more, a significant chunk of this money goes directly to the investment bank who, as we have seen can make billions of pounds of profit in only a few months. Where’s the benefit in this? Investment banking is just a service industry. Why are we so pleased that a company that doesn’t really directly generate any economic growth is able to make such huge profits. Surely our economy would benefit more if this money was located with companies who actually do something that can generate real growth.

Ultimately I would quite like to see much more regulation producing a system that requires that investors do more to make their money and that when they make money it reflects a wise investment that has lead to real economic growth, rather than simply clever trading that takes advantage of short timescale, random fluctuations in share prices. I’m sure there are plenty of arguments against what I’ve said, but I would be very keen to hear them. Of course, these kind of changes would need to be global rather than national. It’s also possible that one reason why the UK doesn’t want to consider any significant changes is that the money made by these investment banks may actually be coming from outside the UK, hence making money for the UK economy. Despite this, I still think that our economy as a whole would benefit from a more regulated system in which investments are actually aimed at generating economic growth, rather than simply making money for the investor as quickly as possible.